Giants In Those Days

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that... -- Genesis 6: 4

(Conspiracy Nation, 3/18/05) -- It is not known why so-called science looks askance on the historicity of giants. There were once giant reptiles, called dinosaurs. Why could there not have once been giant humans? In Genesis 6 Giants author Stephen Quayle offers the best (and indeed, the only) comprehensive overview of this subject. (For further info, visit Quayle's web site, http://www.stevequayle.com) The giants pre-date the Bible. "In the beginning," in Genesis, means not an absolute beginning, but the start of an epoch. It is fairly certain that "pre-historic, pre-Adamic life was on earth before the Genesis 1:2 reforming of an Earth that had become formless and void." The earlier, pre-Adamic "condemned age has invaded the present time and is, in fact, behind many of the falsehoods that have concealed the truth from you." [1] What it was which mostly wiped out the pre-Adamic civilization, writes Quayle, was most likely one or more comets. In this opinion, Quayle is seconded by Conspiracy Nation (see "Ragnarok vs. Unlimited Oil," http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Ragnarok.html).

And Enoch Walked With God

You don't find the Book of Enoch in the Bible anymore, but it used to be there. Thanks to the efforts of Scottish explorer James Bruce, three copies of the Book of Enoch were secured, in Ethiopia, in 1773. Many centuries earlier, the Book of Enoch had fallen into disrepute because it dealt with the physicality of angels. "Once cherished by Jews and Christians alike, this book [Enoch] later fell into disfavor with powerful theologians -- precisely because of its controversial statements on the nature and deeds of the fallen angels." [2]

You may have been intrigued by the following sudden, incongruous, brief statements in the Bible: "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."; "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..." (Genesis 6:2 and 6:4. No wonder God tells Eve, "in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children"! Giving birth to giant offspring must have been especially difficult.) The distinctive and odd-seeming passages from Genesis 6:2 and 6:4 are all that remains of an entire book, the Book of Enoch, which was excised from the Bible. And what is more, this suppressed Book of Enoch, according to Catholic scholar J.T. Milik, is older than Genesis 6 and "Genesis 6 is in fact a direct summary of the earlier Enoch account." [2]

The ancient writings are tantalizing, yet obscure. The sense is, that there is some crucial, definite history glimmering therein. However what exactly is meant is hazy. In the now recovered Book of Enoch, elaboration of provocative hints in Genesis 6:2 and 6:4 is furnished. What is to be made of the further elaboration is still debatable. The "Watchers" saw the daughters of men and mated with them. The Watchers disclosed "secret things" to their sons. (Enoch 10:7). Enoch has the giant offspring of the Watchers consuming "all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beast, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood." (Enoch 7: 3-5) Eventually, Enoch has a vision ("walks with God," see Genesis 5:22), and is told by the Lord that "now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, and from the holy watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits upon the earth..." (Enoch 15: 8-9) There is "slaughter and destruction and death of the giants" but then from the souls of the giants' flesh the spirits go forth and apparently remain on earth as demons. (Enoch 16:1)

How, though, is this reconciled with the recurring presence of giant humans (detailed below)? Perhaps the "slaughter and destruction and death of the giants" was not total, and/or there was a further interbreeding and occasional atavistic throwbacks are still born.

In Those Days; And Also After That

"Most Christians and Jews are unaware of the biblical accounts that giants were found far and wide in the Promised Land." [1] In Greek mythology, the Titans were "creatures created through the interbreeding of the Greek gods and human beings."  Reportedly, the ancient historian Josephus mentions these "Titans" as "the forebears of the Celtae or Gallic giants in Europe." [1]

Geoffrey of Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain is a controversial book. Yet by no means is it established that its contents are necessarily entirely fabulous. Richard Harvey, Cambridge classmate of Edmund Spenser, published a defense of Geoffrey of Monmouth's History. [3] Like the Bible, Geoffrey's History offers tantalizing glimpses of an underlying reality. We find therein that "Britain was called Albion. It was uninhabited except for a few giants." Pioneer leader Brutus and his followers "drove the giants whom they had discovered into the caves in the mountains." [4]

In his encyclopedic compendium on giants, Stephen Quayle offers much further evidence and photographs proving beyond reasonable doubt that not only were there giants in those days, but also after that, right on up to the present era. Photos of, the "Fossilized Irish Giant" (12 feet 2 inches tall); Machnof (9 feet 4 inches tall); Antoine Hugo (see photo at beginning of this report by Conspiracy Nation, 8 feet 4 inches tall); Johann Petursson (8 feet 8 inches tall). Other photos are currently viewable at Quayle's web site, http://www.stevequayle.com

Forbidden Legacy Of A Fallen Race

In From The Ashes Of Angels, author Andrew Collins echoes sentiments expressed by Conspiracy Nation above. Referring to the puzzling passage in Genesis 6:4, Collins writes, "In the hundreds of times I have read these isolated words out aloud I have wondered to myself: what could they possibly mean?" Collins develops a theory that the Watchers (a.k.a. the Grigori, the Nephilim) were an evolved human culture dwelling in the Caucasus mountains. They were known as the Watchers, suggests the author, not because they watched the humans below but because they watched and studied the heavens above. In Collins' theory, this advanced culture interbred with more primitive cultures. Not explained though is the continued presence of truly massive giants throughout history, not just tall but enormous. In Zoroastrianism, two types of supernatural beings are recognized: the ahuras and the daevas. The daevas somehow adopted human form, in this belief system, and had "amatory dealings with earthly women." The alleged shape-shifting ability is also seen in the djinn who, according to Kurdish folklore, mated with 500 earthly virgins. [5] Collins

Beyond the fact that a race of giants once inhabited the earth, that they were prevalent as recently as 2000-or-so years ago, and that atavistic throwbacks of these giants still occasionally occur, little beyond informed speculation is possible. Author David Icke theorizes an ages-old group of shape-shifting reptilians who are the source of great evil on this planet. But Icke is stuck in a reptilian framework: the Djinn, the Daevas, offspring of the Watchers, who mated with the daughters of men and produced giant offspring who "shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling" (Enoch 15:8), are essentially spiritual, not material, and hence not "reptilian." The Djinn "can appear as snakes. They can appear as scorpions, and they can even appear as human beings." [5] So there is some foundation for the belief that members of the most powerful, elite groups are "shape shifters" and not human as they seem.

Because, for some reason, the scientific establishment is closing their eyes on the historical reality of giants, a speculation vacuum occurs into which rushes just about anyone. A group called the Sons of Jared reportedly vows "implacable war against the descendants of the Watchers" who "as notorious Pharoahs, Kings and Dictators, have throughout history dominated mankind." [5] More credible is Elizabeth Clare Prophet, who warns: There are indeed fallen angels, they have embodied on earth and corrupted the souls of her people and they will be judged by the Elect One in the day of the coming of his elect servants. These fallen angels are with us today in positions of power in church and state as prime movers in matters of war and finance, sitting in the banking houses and on policy-making councils that determine the actual fate of mankind by population control and genetic engineering, the control of energy and commodities, education and the media, and by ideological and psychopolitical strategies of divide and conquer on all fronts. [2]

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[1] Quayle, Stephen. Genesis 6 Giants. ISBN: 0-9721347-0-0. See http://www.stevequayle.com/
[2] Prophet, Elizabeth Clare. Fallen Angels and the Origins of Evil. Summit University Press, 2000. ISBN: 0-922729-43-3
[3] Snyder, Christopher. The World Of King Arthur. London: Thames & Hudson, 2000. ISBN: 0-500-05104-6
[4] Geoffrey of Monmouth. The History of the Kings of Britain. London: Penguin Books, 1966. ISBN: 0-14-044170-0
[5] Collins, Andrew. From The Ashes Of Angels. Bear & Company, 2001. ISBN: 187918172-X

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